Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Roy Luongo. Roy is the Chief Information Security Officer for the United States Secret Service. He leads a team in the defense and information assurance of all USSS information systems and solutions. Prior to his current role he was the Director, Joint Mission Operations Center for Cyber Command, providing oversight of mission critical Cyber Operations infrastructures. He has also served as Chief, NSA Red Team and Technical Director for Interactive Operations for the NSA. Roy is a retired Army soldier with 20 years’ service within the Intelligence and Cyber career fields. [March 17, 2025]
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Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Roy Luongo. Roy is the Chief Information Security Officer for the United States Secret Service. He leads a team in the defense and information assurance of all USSS information systems and solutions. Prior to his current role he was the Director, Joint Mission Operations Center for Cyber Command, providing oversight of mission critical Cyber Operations infrastructures. He has also served as Chief, NSA Red Team and Technical Director for Interactive Operations for the NSA. Roy is a retired Army soldier with 20 years’ service within the Intelligence and Cyber career fields. [March 17, 2025]
00:00 – Intro
00:17 – Intro Links:
- Social-Engineer.com– http://www.social-engineer.com/
- Managed Voice Phishing– https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
- Managed Email Phishing– https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
- Adversarial Simulations– https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK– https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
- CLUTCH– http://www.pro-rock.com/
- org– http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/
01:55 – Roy Luongo Intro
02:44 – The Path to CISO of the Secret Service
04:58 – Cybersecurity in Early Education
07:50 – The Entry Level Catch-22
12:24 – Quantifying Risk
14:27 – The Best Way Forward
16:51 – The Effects and Future of AI
20:06 – Understanding Your Needs
22:11 – Advise to Young Roy
24:56 – The Cost of Training
29:01 – Mentors
- Ed Skoudis
- Brigadier General Brian D. Vile
- Shawn Turskey
29:55 – Lollipop Moments
- TEDxToronto – Drew Dudley “Leading with Lollipops”
31:33 – Book Recommendations
- Cybersecurity Canon – Rick Howard
- Kingpin – Kevin Poulsen
- Turn the Ship Around! – David Marquet
33:49 – Wrap Up & Outro