Ep. 120. Has a year passed already? Another DEF CON is here and our amazing guest, Robin Dreeke will be with us on the podcast LIVE helping us SIZE PEOPLE UP! – Aug 19, 2019
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Ep. 120 – Sizing People Up – LIVE AT DEF CON 27 with Robin Dreeke
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Show Notes
On This Episode We Discuss:
- 0:00 – 10th year anniversary podcast!
- 2:38 – Robin’s book Sizing People Up
- 3:43 – Why trust is ultimately what matters
- 5:33 – Perry’s speech at SEVillage
- 7:45 – Changing the context of how you view your situation (And the world)
- 10:35 – How you choose who to engage when speaking to an audience
- 11:10 – Stage hypnosis
- 13:15 – Why you need to make every statement about the other person
- 14:50 – Why we always act in our best interest and understanding what that means for others
- 17:28 – How you can use social engineering in real-life social situations (And how to mitigate manipulation)
- 22:44 – The differences between the alcohol, tobacco, and firearms industries
- 27:25 – The most effect technique for listening
- 28:08 – The Black Badge Contest winners
- 29:05 – How the Black Badge works and why it’s so high pressure
- 30:03 – Techniques for building rapport
- 33:17 – Having so many people fill the room at DEF CON
- 36:22 – Protecting data and how changing culture has to start from the top
- 41:10 – Career prospects and how to find the right company to work for
- 44:38 – The value of writing to build credibility and get more clients
- 46:55 – Phishing education and incentivizing positive action
- 49:45 – Taking time to figure out people’s strengths and top 3 priorities of people you’re working with
- 50:45 – Why loving your product, believing in what you’re selling, and knowing it will help people is crucial to selling a product
- 54:32 – Dealing with fatigue while vishing (And taking breaks)
- 58:04 – What makes a great social-engineer
- 1:00:00 – Perry’s Book
- 1:03:37 – A technique for catching 3 spies (Coming soon)
Connect with Them
- Robin Dreeke on LinkedIn
- Robin Dreeke on Twitter
- Perry Carpenter on LinkedIn
- Perry Carpenter on Twitter
Links:
- Sizing People Up (Book)
- Transformational Security Awareness: What Neuroscientists, Storytellers, and Marketers Can Teach Us About Driving Secure Behaviors (Book)
- The Code of Trust (Book)
- KnowBe4 (Perrys Company)
- People Formula (Robin’s Company)
- Episode 99
- Episode 78
- Episode 42
- Episode 20
- Joe Navarro
- DEF CON
- SEVillage Orlando 2020
- Stephanie Paul
- Amanda Berlin